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Captive funding for cyber risk prevention the next step for Solvay

Large corporate cyber programmes must look to the whole market, as well as consider utilisation of captives and mutuals, in order to find the capacity and coverage required, according to the risk, insurance and captive team at Belgian multinational chemical company owner Solvay.

The challenges of managing cyber security and the role of risk financing was debated at length in a GCP Short, featuring experts from Zurich Insurance alongside risk, captive and information security professionals at Solvay.

Solvay works closely with Zurich on fronting for its cyber programme, which contains large self-retention and captive layers.

“The cyber landscape of threat is evolving all the time so optimization means for us, in risk management and insurance, to get enough capacity to cover a catastrophic risk scenario,” said Sonia Cambier, head of corporate insurance and prevention at Solvay.

“It’s about loss of intellectual property, trade secrets, but also business interruption. It’s clear that there is not enough capacity in the market, so to optimize and to obtain what we need, we use extensively the captive, but also all initiatives to bring capacity into the market like mutuals, like MIRIS, where we are participating.”

MIRIS is a European cyber mutual launched in December 2022, which Solvay is a member of.

Concerning the evolving cyber threat landscape Xavier Paulus, Solvay’s deputy chief information security officer (CISO), also joined the discussion to provide an assessment of current trends and what direction cyber risk is heading.

He said Solvay’s cybersecurity strategy is built on the three pillars of defence, resilience, and insurance.

“The defence pillar is all about implementing strong cybersecurity measures to prevent cyber-attacks from succeeding,” Paulus explained.

“It includes cyber threat intelligence that allows us to receive real-time information on emerging threats and vulnerabilities, and that helps us to identify and respond to potential attack proactively.

“The resilience focus on our ability to detect, to respond and to recover from cyber incidents. That includes a robust incident response plan, backup and disaster recovery strategy.



“Finally, we also have the insurance pillar that provides a protection against the financial and the reputational damage that can be caused by a cyber-attack.”

Xavier Groffils, the Luxembourg based captive director for Solvay, explained that the group’s captive plays three key roles in financing cyber risk.

“The first one is to be a first layer cover to increase the attachment point for the insurance market, so that they are attaching much higher than just after the true deductible,” he said.

“The second role for our captive is to work as a solution to cover gaps in the insurance market capacity.

“Generally, you can sometimes find a fronter and first layer insurer, and then you find high excess cover, but sometimes you are not finding the in-betweens very easily and so the captive is sometimes a facilitator in order to close your capacity.”

The third and future role for the captive is on risk prevention.

Cybersecurity and prevention

Cambier said she expects the captive to play a role “more and more” in financing cybersecurity initiatives at the group level to reduce the risk of future losses.

“Historically, we have always been focusing on prevention first before insurance,” she added.

“We are taking a huge self-retention, we have a big captive, but the next role for the captive to play is to help investing in resiliency and risk prevention in respect of cyber.

“We are, with Xavier Groffils, developing a project where a percentage of the captive premium will be dedicated to prevention to provide additional resource for developing programmes, training and so this is the next step.”

Vivien Bilquez, principal cyber risk engineer at Zurich Resilience Solutions, said cyber insurance is “the most important safeguard today, but it is triggered when it is too late, when the bomb has exploded”.

“To limit and avoid it, it is crucial to be prepared,” he added.

Risk, insurance, CISO collaboration

Collaboration between group risk and insurance, those responsible for the captive and the CISO was the key to designing and implementing a fit-for-purpose risk financing strategy for cyber.

“A collaboration at the level of risk management and cyber security with regular meetings to update each other, that’s a basic, but important thing to mention,” Groffils said.

“Collaboration is key because it’s not possible to be efficient by working in silos on the risk prevention and the risk financing since all represent the three risk protection pillars, that’s our philosophy, especially for cyber risk. All aspects must collaborate together in order to develop the best solution for the company.”

Andreas Ruof, head of proposition development & senior captive services specialist at Zurich, said he expected to see more risk managers going down a similar path and utilising their captive to access greater capacity, contribute to group cybersecurity efforts and understand and market the risk better.

“More and more risk managers are leveraging their captive to centrally collect high quality cyber claims and cyber incident data,” he said.

“It enables superior cyber risk analysis, risk insight and, as a result well-targeted, effective cyber risk mitigation measures. Over time, the cyber risk quality continuously improves which can further boost your captive’s cyber underwriting profitability as well as your cyber risk marketability.”

Listen to the full GCP Short discussion here, or or any podcast app. Just search for ‘Global Captive Podcast’.

GCP Short: Cyber risk strategy built with captive fronting and CISO collaboration

Andreas Ruof, Zurich
Vivien Bilquez, Zurich Resilience Solutions
Sonia Cambier, Solvay
Xavier Groffils, Solvay
Xavier Paulus, Solvay

This GCP Short, produced in partnership with Zurich Insurance, takes a real deep dive into cybersecurity and the role for captives in both risk financing and supporting risk management on the fast evolving and difficult to insure risk.

Richard is joined by three members from the risk, insurance and cybersecurity teams at Belgian multinational chemical company and captive owner Solvay, as well as Andreas Ruof, head of proposition development & senior captive services specialist at Zurich, and Vivien Bilquez, principal cyber risk engineer at Zurich Resilience Solutions.

From Solvay, we hear from have Sonia Cambier, head of corporate insurance and prevention, Luxembourg-based captive director Xavier Groffils, and Xavier Paulus, the group’s deputy chief information security officer (CISO).

This is the first time we have had a CISO on the pod, and the insight we receive from the Solvay team on their risk and insurance challenges, and how they work together on solutions, including utilization of the captive, is a really fascinating discussion.

For more information on Zurich’s captive services, visit their Friend of the Podcast page.

Lawrence Bird to re-join Marsh Capitve Solutions in Singapore

Marsh Captive Solutions has created a new consulting role in Asia with Lawrence Bird, currently at WTW, re-joining in Singapore.

Bird, who will begin working for Marsh again in July, will be captives consulting leader, Asia, leading strategic client conversations on captives across the region, including feasibility studies, strategic captive reviews, and long-term captive strategies for clients.

He is currently director of captive and insurance management for Asia Pacific at WTW, who he joined in February 2022.

Bird has previously worked for Marsh in Guernsey for seven years and as head of office for Marsh Captives in Bermuda.

Ellen Charnley, president of Marsh Captive Solutions, said: “We are delighted to have Lawrence re-join Marsh in Asia, and support our clients and colleagues amid significant growth in captives in the region.”

Bird will report to Peter Johnson, head of advisory, Marsh Asia, and his appointment follows further reshuffling of the captive team announced at the end of last year.

Captive Intelligence reported in December Stuart Herbert, Singapore-based since 2011, was moving to the UK to become international captive consulting practice leader, with Nisala Weerasooriya moving from New York to oversee offices in Singapore, Labuan and Australia.

Asia remains a key growth area for captives. Three new captives were established in Singapore in 2022 with five formed in Labuan.

For more captive domicile statistics, visit the Captive Intelligence data page.

Brembo, Hitachi Energy form Switzerland captives, Swisscom re-domesticates

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Two new captives have been authorised by the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority (FINMA) this month, with a third re-domesticating from Liechtenstein earlier this year.

Brembo Re AG, owned by the Italian manufacturer of automotive brake systems Brembo S.p.A., and Hitachi Energy Re, owned by the Japanese multinational, received ‘C3’ captive reinsurance licences in May.

Brembo Re has also hired Fedele Cappiello as its general manager. Cappiello was previously responsible for captive strategy at Stellantis and managing director of Neptunia Marine Insurance Ltd, the group’s Swiss-domiciled captive.

Captive Intelligence understands both are managed by Strategic Risk Solutions, which opened an office in the domicile in 2021, taking its number of captives under management in Switzerland to four.

Brembo Re will be writing liability and product recall, while Hitachi Energy Re is insuring property, liability and marine.

Telecommunications company Swisscom has also chosen to re-domesticate its Liechtenstein reinsurer to Switzerland, first establishing a new subsidiary and then merging in the existing vehicle.

Swisscom Re AG has received a C1 reinsurance licence, rather than a C3, and is self-managed.

There are several large captives in Switzerland, such as those owned by Nestle and Ikano, that are classified as C1 under the FINMA regime.

Captive Intelligence understands there is expected to be further re-domestications from Liechtenstein to Switzerland.

The three new licences in 2023 follows the formation of STMicroelectronics Re SA in December 2022, owned by STMicro, a Dutch multinational headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, and Barry Callebaut Re AG earlier last year, a captive for the Belgian-Swiss cocoa processor and chocolate manufacturer Barry Callebaut. Both are C3 licences.

Captive sector has strong selling points for future workforce

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The captive insurance sector has a good story to tell graduates and young professionals when they are considering career choices, but the industry must be pro-active, according to members of CICA’s NextGen group.

The Captive Insurance Companies Association (CICA) launched its NextGen initiative in 2019 in an effort to support the career development of new professionals in the industry.

Speaking on the Global Captive Podcast at the Association’s International Conference in March, Bailey Roese, partner at Dentons Bingham Greenebaum LLP, said the sector should be confident in what it can offer to the next generation.

“We think of this question of how we attract and retain new talent as a really intimidating question, a really hard question,” Roese said on GCP #84.

“But I also think we have the answers as an industry if we are just intentional about it. This is a really creative industry. It’s an industry that, it’s people who want to get to “yes”.

“We want to be helpful to our clients, we want to be helpful to one another. And those are the kinds of attributes that are going to lead us to attract new talent, retain new talent.  If we can welcome them in, I think that they will stay.”

Claire Richardson is a captive consultant at Hylant Global Captive Solutions, having attended Butler University where she played an active part in its risk management and insurance (RMI) programme, which included the running of the university’s Bermuda-domiciled captive.

“Continue investing in RMI programmes, or programmes outside of RMI, because we all know that the graduates from those very specific programs are fantastic, but there’s not enough of them to go ahead and fill those holes and gaps that the older generation leaves when they’re retiring in the next five, 10 years,” Richardson said.

“So for the current generation in the industry, continue investing, whether that means funds or time or mentorship opportunities or internship opportunities, really make yourself known. Show up for these students and they will do the same for you.”

Dylan Feringa, assistant vice president in the insurance & specialized industries group at PNC Institutional Asset Management, said he had found CICA’s NextGen group particularly beneficial since joining the industry.

“It helps this next generation coming into this industry really build their network and I think that is a challenging aspect that, as a newer person coming into the captive industry, we see these thousands of people at the conference and don’t know anyone,” he added.

“So having that NextGen group where you know five people out of the thousand. And guess what, those five people know other people and they’re able to make those introductions. So I think that’s one important aspect, of just being able to help build your network.”

Listen to the full discussion with Bailey Roese, Claire Richardson and Dylan Feringa on GCP #84 here, or on any podcast app. Just search for ‘Global Captive Podcast’ and hit subscribe.

Captives are no longer an ‘alternative market’ – Paul Phillips

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Captives should no longer be considered an ‘alternative market’, with the volume of premium and assets under management carried by self-insurance subsidiaries demanding they be viewed as a market in their own right, according to Paul Phillips, partner and global captive network co-leader at EY.

Speaking on a GCP Short with Lisa Wall, executive vice president and risk finance practice leader at Lockton, Phillips discussed the growing prevalence and sophistication of captives, pushing the envelope further with clients and how they may be used to insure ESG-related risks.

“One of the things I’ve been saying on my stump speeches is captives are no longer an alternative market,” Phillips said. “They are in their own right, a market.”

According to data collected by Captive Intelligence, there is more than $100bn in premium written through captives domiciled in the United States alone, while it is estimated 90% of the Fortune 500 own at least one captive insurance company.

Phillips said he is seeing captive owners increasingly explore and push the boundaries of the types of risks they insure through a captive.

“There’s no doubt that we’re seeing new product getting deployed into captives routinely, no doubt that people are becoming more creative around what types of business risks may be insurable, that they can drop into their captive,” he explained.

“Part of that was driven due to the state’s adopting new laws, part of that was driven due to federal tax court cases going in favour of the taxpayer. And the biggest part of that is driven by the hard market and the CFOs looking for alternatives, not to use the same word, but looking for alternatives on ways to finance the risk.”

Lockton, although not a captive manager, does provide risk financing and captive consulting to clients and Lisa Wall said the number of strategic reviews of captives her team have been requested to do has “taken a sharp increase” over the past three years.

“I think it might have been some of the retrenching after Covid, just coming up with what is the best thing for our organisation now in light of where we are,” she said.

“It’s definitely been hard market driven too, but I think it is this view of ‘we’ve got this captive, what else can we do? Can we make it something more and is it going to be more valuable for us?’”

Third party risk continues to be a significant topic in captive circles, with an increasing number of companies keen to explore if they can use their established captive to provide consumer, warranty or affinity types insurances to their customers, contractors or suppliers.

Phillips said this remains industry specific, with some lending themselves more to the opportunity of participating in third party risk programmes.

“In different sectors we do see people who are looking for different revenue streams and seeking opportunities to expand out to third party coverage and basically open their own insurance company,” he added.

“In other sectors, not so much. Other sectors are more conservative, looking at only the first party risk. They’re not very interested in true third-party acceptance of outside risk.”

Wall said entering third party risk programmes does require careful consideration from the captive owner because it can change the profile and purpose of the captive.

“We start every discussion with what are the opportunities here? And put it in the buckets; third party, first party,” she added.

“And if there is a natural fit for the industry sector, then that’s the initial conversation. Is this something that you want to get in to? Is this a business risk?

“Because you’re underwriting. You’re trying to determine is this the appropriate risk that we should take and do we know enough about it to do it? I think it’s just more in the industry sectors where it hits that it is an active conversation.”

You can listen to the full discussion between Richard, Paul and Lisa on the Global Captive Podcast here, or on any podcast app. Just search for ‘Global Captive Podcast’ and hit subscribe.

Coke’s Stacy Apter looking for insurance evolution, role for capital market platforms


  • Coca-Cola treasurer Stacy Apter speaks exclusively on the Global Captive Podcast about risk financing philosophy and captive strategy
  • Hard market prompted company to re-assess how it deploys captive balance sheet
  • Keen to see insurance market move to a more portfolio approach to underwriting
  • Role for capital markets and platforms in bringing insured and investors closer together

The hard market has led the Coca-Cola Company to lean further on its captive with treasurer Stacy Apter keen to see a move towards a more portfolio-based approach to risk transfer, from both the commercial insurance and capital markets.

Speaking in an extensive interview on the Global Captive Podcast Apter, vice president and corporate treasurer at the Coca-Cola Company, sets out the beverage giant’s risk financing philosophy and how it has evolved over the past five years.

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GCP #86: Stacy Apter, Coca-Cola’s corporate treasurer, on captive strategy and the future of insurance

Stacy Apter, Coca-Cola Company
Jason Flaxbeard, Brown & Brown

In episode 86 of the Global Captive Podcast, supported by the EY Global Captive Network, Richard sits down with Stacy Apter, vice president and corporate treasurer at the Coca-Cola Company, while visiting Atlanta, Geogia for RISKWORLD.

Stacy is known to many in the captive market from the various roles she has held at Coke since joining in 2005, which included risk and insurance and global benefits positions, and gives her an incredibly rounded outlook on how the risk, insurance and captive market can be utilised most effectively to support Coke’s financial and business goals.

We are also joined by Jason Flaxbeard, of Brown & Brown, a familiar voice for regular listeners to the pod, and who works closely with Stacy and Coke’s risk and insurance team on their captive programme.

Stacy and Jason talk in depth about the philosophy driving Coca-Cola’s captive strategy, and how they want to see the insurance market evolving further.

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Vermont governor signs new captive legislation, increases funding

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Governor Phil Scott has signed Bill H.76 into law, which actions several updates to Vermont’s captive legislation, including refining the confidentiality of company information and increasing funding for the Vermont Captive Insurance Division.

The Bill was signed into law on 8 May.

“Vermont continues to be the worldwide leader in the captive insurance market, and this bill makes additional steps to enhance our strong reputation,” Scott said.

“The hard work of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation (DFR) and their partnerships in the industry ensure Vermont continues to see the significant economic benefits that come with our leadership in this sector.”

The legislation aims to align the statute with the information collected when a new company applies for a licence.

It also updates the language for how the confidentiality of information collected is handled, extending such treatment to subsequent updates, approved amendments or revisions to a company’s information, and its plan of operation.

Other sections of the Bill include updates to references, the allowance of electronic records as an acceptable form of record retention, and amends protected cell naming conventions to be inclusive of all allowable business type.

The legislation also included support for funding for the DFR captive insurance division to enable sustainable regulatory staffing and adequate resources to improve the environment captive insurance companies operate.

“Vermont is the gold standard when it comes to captive insurance regulation,” said Vermont deputy commissioner of captive insurance, Sandy Bigglestone.

“Captive owners have consistently communicated the need to operate in a jurisdiction with quality regulation because it adds value to their investment in managing their own risk and provides support for the captive operations of the organization.”

Vermont licensed 41 new captives in 2022 as it continues to benefit from a boom in captive business, largely driven by the hard insurance market.

There is more than $194bn in assets under management within the 639 captives domiciled in the state at the end of 2022, which write $30bn in annual premium.

Product recall a challenging line for captives, but interest increases


  • Product recall is split between food & beverage, automotive suppliers and pharmaceuticals
  • In Germany in 2019 3.6m new cars were registered, while close to 3.2m cars were subject to recall
  • Electric vehicle trend expected to increase demand for product recall insurance
  • AstraZeneca’s long-term captive utilisation protected it from pricing surge during pandemic

The current utilisation of captives in the product recall market is infrequent, but the interest in putting the coverage in captives is increasing, particularly in the automotive space.

One of the main reasons for the lack of captives writing product recall in the UK is the current competitiveness of the domestic recall market, which usually does not inspire many new captive formations.

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